MAD Podcast

Sat 25 October 2025

This week I had the pleasure of chatting with Matt Turck from the MAD Podcast, and it was a fun one! We talked trends in AI, RL and why it unlocks Agents, scaling and so much more.

You can find the episode on your podcast app of choice, or on YouTube:

For the curious, some links to what we talked about, and further reading:

• my recent blog post, Failing to Understand the Exponential
• Move 37, as it happened in the AlphaGo documentary, and professional player commentary, "I thought it was a mistake".
• Scaling Laws for Neural Language Models (2020!), for the original introduction of the idea of exponential scaling in language models
• Machines of Loving Grace, "How AI Could Transform the World for the Better"
• Urgency of Interpetability, how and why interpretability can help us make models safe
• Alignment bumpers, on catching and fixing misalignment issues
• Petri open-source auditing tool to accelerate AI safety research
• Findings from a Pilot Anthropic—OpenAI Alignment Evaluation Exercise: Anthropic post, OpenAI post

Also check out the recent episode with my friend Sholto!

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